Curse

chicks boy · Jan 14, 2007, 03:03 AM // 03:03

Ok i put koss's skill setup Holy decapitate(new build from wiki), mainly it contains Retribution and Holy wrath. So i ordered Koss to put on Retribution... Guess what he did? Yep somehow he dismaintain the enchantment... By his ownself..?? I put it up again and once again he did it again... Whats wrong with him????

martialis · Jan 14, 2007, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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Whats wrong with him????

Heroes can't use maintained enchantments.

Puebert · Jan 14, 2007, 04:44 AM // 04:44

You have to cancel the skill.

Shift+Click on skill, you have to manually use it.

Jegred2 · Jan 14, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

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Originally Posted by martialis

Heroes can't use maintained enchantments.

ya they can, i usd to have my tahlkora set up as a boon prot, never disengaged divine boon.Might be because koss is a melee char? i don't know.

Mesmer in Need · Jan 14, 2007, 06:54 AM // 06:54

koss obviously doesnt like the build, so he trys to do away with it. the heros are getting smarter everyday. before you know it, they will be using a "select human" list on the party menu.

Jegred2 · Jan 14, 2007, 07:22 AM // 07:22

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Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

koss obviously doesnt like the build, so he trys to do away with it. the heros are getting smarter everyday. before you know it, they will be using a "select human" list on the party menu.

...skynet...

Terminator reference for you guys who don't know.

Cow Tale · Jan 14, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39

^^lol i like!

strcpy · Jan 14, 2007, 07:54 AM // 07:54

Am I missing something? I looked at the build at guildwiki:

decapitate, executioner strike, disrupting chop, flail, rush, strength of honor, holy wrath.

It say to use a furious axe, not a zealous. Since you will have no pips of energy regen and as far as I can tell none of the other skills add energy back. Holy Wrath will trigger, oh - once or twice?

The instructions reference Balthazar's spirit and that makes sense, but the current build seems pretty broken to me. It's been that way for the last few hours so I assume I just didn't load it once in between an edit.

Anyway - to the original poster: First shift+click the skill to disable their control of the skill. Then select who you want it cast on (IIRC they cast on you if no one is selected) and click the skill. From that point on they should maintain it unless it gets striped - then you have to select who you want it on and recast. In my opinion most cases of using maintained enchants with the heroes isn't worth the effort of micro-managing.

Fungus Amongus · Jan 16, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Read the skill description of [wiki]Holy Wrath[/wiki]. Once he takes 2-3 hits it's going to cancel itself anyway. To use Holy Wrath your energy needs to stay above zero. Expecting a Warrior to replenish energy to offset the -10 energy loss from each hit while enchanted with Holy Wrath is rather silly.

Besides, maintained enchantments need to be disabled on heroes' skillbars for them to use them properly.

Also, Holy Wrath would be better on a squishie. 66% of damage dealt to a squishie is far more than 66% damage dealt back from a warrior. Either way, 2-3 hits will expire the enchantment. Retribution also sucks to use on a high armor warrior. Pick a better skill for Koss.

Wrath Of Dragons · Jan 16, 2007, 07:07 AM // 07:07

I believe that holy wrath wont end at 0 energy, and thats how the 600hp duo build works. koss will be stuck at 0e forever.

To use a maintained enchant, shift-click a skill on the heros bar so it is crossed off. now target your hero/player, and click on the disabled skill. the hero will use it, but it will remained disabled. if it gets rended/shattered, you will have to redo it

strcpy · Jan 17, 2007, 05:16 AM // 05:16

To be fair, they finally changed Strength of Honor to Balthazar's spirit so it now has some energy regen.

I still don't think it is that great a build - I would much rather have other skills, but it does work as advertised with that change.

Though, due to it's relative lack of intelligence needed (just spam the adrenaline skills when they are charged and those two maintained enchants work on their own) it may be a decent hero build. Just no self heals or damage reduction. But then, Koss seems to do a w/r axe poisoner, and eviscerate warrior, and a few of the stance tanks just fine too.

I Phoenix I · Jan 17, 2007, 06:10 AM // 06:10

Holy Wrath doesn't end when the caster's energy gets to 0. If it did, it would say.

Ex: [wiki]Thunderclap[/wiki]

Jeff Highwind · Jan 19, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19

Bumping to prove how incompetent Koss is imo.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:W/any_Steady_Warrior
^^I use this build in PvE just for the entertainment factor, and I decided to give Koss it as well to compliment me. He NEVER uses Steady Stance or Fear me.